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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    You're just making stuff up now.

    I was very happy with Castrol Range until they made labelling too similar and my prices got out of order.

    I changed to Penrite based on new product, range and pricing.

    Carl ALWAYS advocated Shell oils, not penrite, and I proved enough times how bad they typically were.
    I'm not making anything up.

    Carl put me onto Penrite years ago....for reasons specifically good for Ferraris.

    The one making things up, as usual, is you. Carl put me onto Penrite AT LEAST 5 or 6 years ago, starting when I still had the 308GT4.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    I'm not making anything up.

    Carl put me onto Penrite years ago....for reasons specifically good for Ferraris.

    The one making things up, as usual, is you. Carl put me onto Penrite AT LEAST 5 or 6 years ago, starting when I still had the 308GT4.
    So what, that's not what you said.

    You said I'd said it was rubbish and that I'd never touch it. Which is simply not true. It's also a fact that Carl has always advocated Shell products, we had numerous chats about it, he even had some delivered to my shop when he was here and I told him to take it home asap as I didn't want customers to think I used it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    It's also a fact that Carl has always advocated Shell products, we had numerous chats about it, he even had some delivered to my shop when he was here and I told him to take it home asap as I didn't want customers to think I used it!
    I think you have a pathological issue. I just told you Carl put me onto Penrite years ago...and that's a fact....so to continue with "Carl has always advocated shell.." is simply straight out misleading. So you've finally taken Carl's advice and started using Penrite? Good for you...there are excellent reasons for using it in Ferraris...and probably other cars too.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    I think you have a pathological issue. I just told you Carl put me onto Penrite years ago...and that's a fact....so to continue with "Carl has always advocated shell.." is simply straight out misleading. So you've finally taken Carl's advice and started using Penrite? Good for you...there are excellent reasons for using it in Ferraris...and probably other cars too.
    I know that Carl used both, but the fact is he advocated Shell at least as much in my experience.

    And no, it wasnt Carls advice, not that it would have been wrong, just that it's not what happened, or anything like it.

    At the race team, we proved the shell was bad for oil pressure and temp control.

    I have 23 Penrite products that cover the Ferrari range I take care of, FYI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    I know that Carl used both, but the fact is he advocated Shell at least as much in my experience.

    At the race team, we proved the shell was bad for oil pressure and temp control.

    beep beep beep...reversing....

    So what you meant to say, actually, is that Carl liked a number of products, two of which were Shell and Penrite.

    *sigh*

    As usual, your initial post was ambiguous and misleading.

    Thanks for finally manning up with the clarification.

    Like I said, well done on the change to Penrite. You should have taken Carl's advice about it years ago. You know how he researches his stuff!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post

    beep beep beep...reversing....

    So what you meant to say, actually, is that Carl liked a number of products, two of which were Shell and Penrite.

    *sigh*

    As usual, your initial post was ambiguous and misleading.

    Thanks for finally manning up with the clarification.

    Like I said, well done on the change to Penrite. You should have taken Carl's advice about it years ago. You know how he researches his stuff!!
    Shell and Penrite are brands, not products.

    Castrol products are also perfectly suitable if choosing the right one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    Shell and Penrite are brands, not products.
    You are correct, this time. ....even though you are clutching at straws, because we were talking about Shell oil and Penrite oil, so they are products, obviously.

    Unlike you, I can admit when someone is right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    You are correct, this time. ....even though you are clutching at straws, because we were talking about Shell oil and Penrite oil, so they are products, obviously.

    Unlike you, I can admit when someone is right.
    Were you right when you said your cam seals were leaking?
    When I said they weren't, was I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    Were you right when you said your cam seals were leaking?
    When I said they weren't, was I right?
    Let's start at the beginning....why were we having that conversation in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    No
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    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    Fixed
    Wrong again, but nice try. The whole saga is on my website. So is the moretti saga. I don't need to bore anyone here with the details again.

    Why are you bringing it up, two dogs?

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    Motul, manufacturer of world class lubricants and pioneer of Ester technology, announces the latest evolution of their 300V line of automotive racing oils. Using Esters at the heart of its technology, 300V is recognized worldwide as a leading racing oil product.

    The 300V range suits all racing gasoline (Leaded, Unleaded, Ethanol, Methanol) or diesel engines, naturally aspirated or turbocharged fitted with injection (direct /indirect) or carburetted. (For race prepared engines operating over a wide range of rpm and temperatures.)

    This new reformulation further improves engine lubrication with its advanced blend of Esters, 100% synthetic base oils and a package of innovative additives.

    Today?s highly developed engines make far greater power for their displacement and this places greater demands on the engine?s oil. Knowing these demands, Motul?s R&D department developed the reformulated 300V with two important targets in mind: an increase in engine power ? the main focus in competition; and increased engine reliability.

    The result of comprehensive development is Motul?s newest technology, Ester Core?. Used exclusively in the reformulated 300V, Ester Core provides an increase of up to seven-horsepower in comparison with that attained by rival products. Add in extremely low oil consumption and perfect engine protection even in extreme conditions, the 300V range remains the benchmark in motorsports lubricants.

    The reformulated 300V line now has eight different product options.

    Six viscosities found previously in the line include:
    ? 0W20
    ? 5W30
    ? 5W40
    ? 10W40
    ? 15W50
    ? 20W60

    Two new additional viscosities include:
    ? 0W15 for pure performance
    ? 0W40 for power and optimized reliability










    For more information on the full range of 300V products visit: https://www.motul.com/au/en/products/oils-lubricants?f%5Bapplication%5D=140&f%5Brange%5D =25

    We?re here to help!
    If you?d like some tips on how to read our product labels or maybe you?re wondering which is the best type of oil suited to your car? Send us a PM!
    If you have any questions about any of our products please feel free to get in contact with us.

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    My understanding is that Motul are sponsors of this section so I'll keep my reply, brief! In terms of engine oils:

    I used Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 in all my cars on the street from 1992 (Was originally 15W-40) and for the very odd track day, the same type, but 10W-60. In 2009 Shell began to remove the ZDDP that was present in their Helix Ultra, I believe this was to preserve the API classification and therefore maintain the OEM recommendation from manufacturers such as Ferrari.

    All my cars were designed when ZDDP was present in oil, and for this reason, I decided that I would use an oil that was 1. fully synthetic AND 2. had a minimum of 1,200ppm ZDDP. (ZDDP is a science in itself, but basically it's very good for flat tappet 2V engines that have beefy valve springs, such as 911s and 2V Ferraris because of it's shear properties, however it is poisonous to catalytic converters).

    When my stock of Shell Helix Ultra was exhausted I came across the Penrite product after much research. They were the only manufacturers I could find that featured a full synthetic and incorporate ZDDP in Australia. The current product I use is the 10/10 racing in 5W-30 and 10W-40. These are 100% group 4 and group 5 synthetics. I have been a user of their engine oils for 5 years and have no issues. I also use other products by Penrite and Shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl888 View Post
    My understanding is that Motul are sponsors of this section so I'll keep my reply, brief! In terms of engine oils:

    I used Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 in all my cars on the street from 1992 (Was originally 15W-40) and for the very odd track day, the same type, but 10W-60. In 2009 Shell began to remove the ZDDP that was present in their Helix Ultra, I believe this was to preserve the API classification and therefore maintain the OEM recommendation from manufacturers such as Ferrari.

    All my cars were designed when ZDDP was present in oil, and for this reason, I decided that I would use an oil that was 1. fully synthetic AND 2. had a minimum of 1,200ppm ZDDP. (ZDDP is a science in itself, but basically it's very good for flat tappet 2V engines that have beefy valve springs, such as 911s and 2V Ferraris because of it's shear properties, however it is poisonous to catalytic converters).

    When my stock of Shell Helix Ultra was exhausted I came across the Penrite product after much research. They were the only manufacturers I could find that featured a full synthetic and incorporate ZDDP in Australia. The current product I use is the 10/10 racing in 5W-30 and 10W-40. These are 100% group 4 and group 5 synthetics. I have been a user of their engine oils for 5 years and have no issues. I also use other products by Penrite and Shell.
    I'm sure all of Phil's customers are very grateful for your advice about oil. he's now admitted following your example and advice. took long enough.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    I'm sure all of Phil's customers are very grateful for your advice about oil. he's now admitted following your example and advice. took long enough.
    Idiot.

    Castrol only lost me due to confusing labelling and price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari View Post
    Idiot.

    Castrol only lost me due to confusing labelling and price.
    Come on Phil...give credit where it's due. No need to call me names. Carl steered you in a good direction. You should be grateful instead of abusive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircon View Post
    Come on Phil...give credit where it's due. No need to call me names. Carl steered you in a good direction. You should be grateful instead of abusive.
    You're just wrong.

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